Overexposure. Law Professor and Health Economics Researcher, Christopher Robertson, PhD, JD


Name: Christopher Robertson, PhD, JD

Speciality: Professor of Law, Associate Dean for Research & Innovation, University of Arizona.

Location: Tucson, Arizona

In January of 2018, Warren Buffett, Jeff Bezos and Jamie Dimon announced the creation of a new, co-venture, to tackle the rising costs of healthcare for their company’s employees. They immediately picked famous writer and surgeon, Atul Gawande to lead it. Short on details but big on promise, just the simple announcement of this venture sent shock waves through the media and the markets. Billions of dollars in stock value for insurance companies and other health sector players vanished over night. 

Two years later, we have a name for this venture (Haven Health) but little else. What they’re up to, and what they’re planning, is still a big mystery. Whatever ultimately happens here, it will matter, simply because names like Amazon and Warren Buffet are behind it. The question is, how much will it matter for the rest of us? How much can anyone (even powerful billionaires) really change the American healthcare system? 

Today’s guest is Christopher Robertson, Associate Dean for Research and Innovation and Professor of Law at the University of Arizona. His background and research interests overlap many academic disciplines, including bioethics, health law, incentives, behavioral economics and more. His CV includes a PhD in philosophy and a law degree from Harvard. 

Unfortunately, Chris doesn’t have behind the scenes access to Haven Health (we know, we asked him). But, he does have a new book exploring some unique ideas and research that should certainly be on their radar, and yours. The book, “Exposed: Why Our Health Insurance is Incomplete and What can be Done About,” also includes a historical overview of our modern American health system, a history often forgotten and overlooked in todays political debates. This was great conversation and we really enjoyed having Christopher on. With that said, let’s get started…

Carrot on a Stick: The science & business of improving patient behavior with Michael Dermer, founder of IncentOne and The Lonely Entrepreneur.

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Michael Dermer is an entrepreneur who is considered the founder of not only a company, but also an industry. He has been featured in Forbes, MSNBC and The Huffington Post.

Michael left his job as a New York corporate attorney to fulfill his entrepreneurial spirit when he started IncentOne, the first company to provide financial rewards for healthy behavior. Michael sold his company in 2013 and is considered a pioneer of the health rewards industry. Michael is now a professional speaker, consultant, and coach for start-up businesses and entrepreneurs. He graduated from the Northwestern University School of Law and lives in New York City.

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